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On the yellow one it is either a plastic plug that holds the bogie in place or you remove the cap and there’s a screw under it. Have you tried just pulling the bogie free?
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andruec wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:08 am I'm a novice and my track has only recently reached the point where I can run locos on DCC. I have three new DCC fitted diesels, bought November, finally got to use them and have found:

* One had a bent chassis pickup.
* Another had oil smeared on one of the pickups.
* The third has some kind of stain (looks like soot?) all over the pickups.

I've fixed the first two but the third is proving difficult.

Question one: Is this typical of Dapol quality?
Question two: How should I clean the dirty pickups. Isopropyl alcohol?

Not terribly impressed. The other Dapol I have is an HST and I know it runs fine on DC but I haven't fitted a decoder yet so don't know if it'll be fine on DCC. They were all bought through Hattons so I'm not sure whether Dapol fitted the decoders or if that was Hattons.
My experience of N gauge Dapol locomotives, especially Steam Loco's, is that they are very haphazardly constructed, a good one is great, a poor one needs returning for replacement, or refund, asap.
I have returned at least as many tender steam loco's as I've kept, 3 returned to 2 kept of the 9F, 3 returned and a refund for an attempted purchase of a grange, 2 returns and refunded for a Britannia*.

* I eventually found a Minitrix Brit' which, with new traction tyres, runs beautifully.
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Walkingthedog wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:06 pm On the yellow one it is either a plastic plug that holds the bogie in place or you remove the cap and there’s a screw under it. Have you tried just pulling the bogie free?
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Yes, it's just a plastic plug and pulling the bogie releases it. It also revealed that there is a chassis so I was able to separate the body from it and that allowed me to revel in the amazing coupling centering system. I've made a video:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2Y3UE1BuEvJBgt7KA

Even with the couplings hanging in the air that 'spring' does nothing. It even got stuck a couple of times. It might be possible to fit a better spring between the axel and the little nipple at the back but I doubt it. Maybe some strong glue just before the slot to try and force the arms of the 'spring' together?
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For those who can't/won't watch the video here's an image of the top of the coupling.

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Maybe a little lubrication would help. Not for you, the coupling.
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I've just bought an OO gauge Dapol class 121 DMU from Hatton's. One of the buffers is loose -- I found a tiny circlip on my layout board which I guess is the retainer, and there is a blemish about 2cm in length near the guard's door, which is just visible in a certain light. A little disappointing, given that the lump cost north of £120. Hattons have agreed to a partial £10 refund, which on this occasion is fine. I can't get another sample of the model anywhere, not that I've looked that hard, and I think that a very small dab of modelling glue will hold the buffer in place. I really can't see a situation where the sprung-loaded buffers will be called upon!
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I appreciate your concern, Andruec. If you would like to press one, press one. If you would like to press two, press two. If you would like to press three, press three.

But seriously, I am Stateside unabashed Anglophile, and British OO is a passion. My passion has led me to buy quite a bit of worthless junk, factory fresh. It is not feasible for me to simply pack it off back overseas for a refund. The cost of shipping is prohibitive (other USA British model rail fans, note that Hornby has, at last look, free shipping to the USA for orders over $70. That punched my ticket).

I found a resource of invaluable merit by the name of Sam's Trains Review. Now, some have no affection for this fellow, who at one point demonstrated running a locomotive under water to show it could be done (how many children have since electrocuted themselves is unknown) and running his tracks on bare carpet. All that aside, I have carefully watched his analysis of various pieces, and made purchases of new equipment based entirely on his discretion. Not one single piece has failed to perform superbly, as he demonstrated, not one, and this is straight across the line of Hornby, Bachmann, and Dapol.

Already, my ears are ringing. I can envisage some of my British cousins pounding the table as I write these words. But I swear on the man.

For nostalgia, I like to dabble in some vintage Triang and Wrenn. To this end, Oscar Paisley has a splendid YouTube channel, where he collects and run primarily new old stock, both power and wagons/coaches. His layout, under catenary, is nothing short of brilliant, and he gives great
insight as to what to anticipate when purchasing vintage pieces.
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Chops wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:44 am Already, my ears are ringing. I can envisage some of my British cousins pounding the table as I write these words. But I swear on the man.
I am a big fan of Sam, I find him very entertaining and usually informative. There is also a Canadian guy I like with the channel SMT Mainline.
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