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Prototype for everything dept. - Stephenson's Rocket 1829

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Prototype for everything dept. - Stephenson's Rocket 1829

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I have marveled at this Buster Keaton film, and oft wondered how they pulled off the special effects of the Byzantine rail. Clearly, special effects were in the infancy of the 1920's. Nothing indicates that it was other than self propelled.

Has anyone seen the actual Rocket, in York, I think? I am most curious how Stephenson contrived to move the water from the tender to the boiler. One could not just walk into a parts depot and grab a hose off the shelf. Has anyone seen, or better yet, photographed the hose that would have been used?
What research I've done suggests it would have been a stitched leather elongated tube affair. The ingenuity of the man and his son never fails to astonish me.
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There is a copper pipe connected to the bottom of the water barrel. That is connected to a pipe on the boiler probably as you say by a leathers hose. Not sure if the water was pumped by hand.

I saw the Rocket in the Science Museum in London. Not sure where it is now. I know York has a replica but might have the original as well.
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REF> The Rocket.

When the old "Transport Museum" was at Clapham in London, before being moved to York, on a plinth outside was a large replica of Rocket.

I believe that this was taken up to York when the NRM first opened. :D
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Chops wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:39 amI have marveled at this Buster Keaton film, and oft wondered how they pulled off the special effects of the Byzantine rail. Clearly, special effects were in the infancy of the 1920's. Nothing indicates that it was other than self propelled.

Has anyone seen the actual Rocket, in York, I think? I am most curious how Stephenson contrived to move the water from the tender to the boiler. One could not just walk into a parts depot and grab a hose off the shelf. Has anyone seen, or better yet, photographed the hose that would have been used?
What research I've done suggests it would have been a stitched leather elongated tube affair. The ingenuity of the man and his son never fails to astonish me.
I think I've seen it when I was a kid but can't really remember where as I've been to Clapham, the Science Museum and York ...

Tye inginuity of all of thes epioneers is staggering, think of the Atmospheric line at Dawlish, South Devon Railway - OK, it failed! - and the early railway telegraph systems that had to invent insulation for the wires, if I remember rightly pig fat was one of the prototype materails tried out but the rats climbed up the posts and ate it!
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Walkingthedog wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:28 am There is a copper pipe connected to the bottom of the water barrel. That is connected to a pipe on the boiler probably as you say by a leathers hose. Not sure if the water was pumped by hand.

I saw the Rocket in the Science Museum in London. Not sure where it is now. I know York has a replica but might have the original as well.

One can usually tell which is which because the origional had its cylinders moved later in its life to the horizontal position, while the replicas were all made with the cylinders in the origional vertical position.
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