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Old 20-05-2018, 01:40 PM   #1
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I paid a visit to a friend of mine on Saturday evening and he could not wait to show me his latest find. It is a scratch built model i believe. It is a model of Stephenson`s Rocket and it`s made from Lock components. I took a few pics to share with you.
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Old 20-05-2018, 03:37 PM   #2
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That’s quite impressive.
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Old 20-05-2018, 03:45 PM   #3
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I like that a lot!
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Very clever,
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Must have taken some work to do that. Imagine if the builder started making the models we use?
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That is indeed beautiful
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I have studied the inception of the Rocket, and its forerunner, the 1804 Trevethick,
with as much alacrity as I studied for a pilot's license, ages ago. The most damning
question was just how water was transmitted from the barrel on the tender to the
boiler. I found descriptions of many sorts regarding the one way valve, and ingeniously simple arrangement, and stared at a hundred photographs of this monumental act of genius, but could not find one single reference to a hose in an age when every component had to to be invented and forged individually. A tremendous piece of art, it is possibly evident the artisan was also in the dark on this matter.

It was some kindly soul on this Forum who explained to me that it was a leather
hose. I think. A reiteration upon this small, but exceedingly important
issue would be most welcomed.
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I have studied the inception of the Rocket, and its forerunner, the 1804 Trevethick,
with as much alacrity as I studied for a pilot's license, ages ago. The most damning
question was just how water was transmitted from the barrel on the tender to the
boiler. I found descriptions of many sorts regarding the one way valve, and ingeniously simple arrangement, and stared at a hundred photographs of this monumental act of genius, but could not find one single reference to a hose in an age when every component had to to be invented and forged individually. A tremendous piece of art, it is possibly evident the artisan was also in the dark on this matter.

It was some kindly soul on this Forum who explained to me that it was a leather
hose. I think. A reiteration upon this small, but exceedingly important
issue would be most welcomed.
I'm afraid I cannot offer a definitive answer however I do think that clues are available to us which, in conjunction with a little further digging may well come up with a reasonal assumption.

My thoughts are based on the fact that fire hoses have, up until only very recently been manufactured from canvas, and are still available in such material and can be used for pressures above 10 bar ( 150 psi). The challenge with a fire hose is that it can only be used on a pressurised line as the soft canvas collapses under a less than atmospheric pressure. This would then leave us wondering just where the feed pump was on the locomotive.

If it was on the barrel then a canvas hose may be worth considering. If however it was mounted on the boiler then a suction line would require more thought. Again I turn to fire fighting when, as a youngster I was involved with training in fire fighting equipment which included a manually operated breathing system powered by foot operated bellows. The hose for this device had to be rigid yet flexible as well as fire resistant so again a canvas hose was used however this was fitted internally with an open spiral spring, which ran the length of the hose and prevented it collapsing.

I would think that it quite possible that a canvas hose may well have been used in the situation you describe as it could be made strong yet flexible for the delivery of high pressure water. My concern with leather would be the high number of joints and seams required, which would then all be potential sources of leaks whereas canvas can be manufactured continuously.
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There are some interesting bits here on page 61:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stephensons...der_1785210637
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Surely it should be called Locket?
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