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Old 28-10-2017, 09:57 AM   #11
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plan of waterloo station on google images type in waterloo station and scroll down
Why do the two vehicle entrances to the cab yard show the IN and OUT lanes the "wrong" way round ie opposite to UK roads?
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Old 28-10-2017, 10:12 AM   #12
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Most terminal stations included a turntable (or a turning triangle)

I'd be interested to learn what a turning triangle was.
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Old 28-10-2017, 10:22 AM   #13
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I both spotted at Waterloo / Clapham Junction as a schoolboy and worked there in 1966 while there was still some steam. The usual operation was that a little engine ( E4, H16, W, M7, 57xx, BR 3MT 2-6-2T etc ) brought the carriages in empty from Clapham Junction, and the big engine backed down from Nine Elms, and attached it the outer end. The big engine took the train away. The little engine then went to another platform where another train had arrived earlier coupled on and took the carriages away to Clapham Junction, passing through the carriage washing machine on the way. After putting these coaches away they coupled on to another set of carriages to return to Waterloo for the next train.

Sometimes the big loco off an incoming train took the carriages of another train to Clapham Junction although that was not especially common.

All this time the electric multiple units were dashing in and out.

After July 1967 there was no more steam, but the Exeters were still formed of coaches hauled by class 33s or class 42s (later class 50s). There was usually another class 33, 42 or 50 ready to go on to the other end to work the train away. There was also a few 33s and the odd 09 dotted about, and the class 74s also that were used on some of the Weymouth boat trains etc. Empty stock still went back and forth to Clapham Junction but by then all the Bournemouth line services were 4Rep / TC MU stock.
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Most terminal stations included a turntable (or a turning triangle)

I'd be interested to learn what a turning triangle was.
Jim.
A turning triangle is the arrangement of lines in the form of a triangle with points at the apexes so that a locomotive can be turned in the other direction by passing round all three sides.

A good example might be Metropolitan Junction - Cannon Street - Borough Market Junction.
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I had one on my old layout.
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Most terminal stations included a turntable (or a turning triangle)

I'd be interested to learn what a turning triangle was.
Jim.
Its just a Triangle made from 3 sets of points, Hither Green had one, worked like this, leave the depot go round Lee Spur on the down road, use a set of points to crosso over to the up road, go to St John's Station, use a set of point to go to the down road the back to Hither Green this reversed the Loco....Reading Depot sat in the middle of a Triangle....
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There is one still in use at Manningtree, Essex. They turned the Tornado round on it a few years back
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Why do the two vehicle entrances to the cab yard show the IN and OUT lanes the "wrong" way round ie opposite to UK roads?
It's like that going in and out of the council offices car park in Wycombe due to the layout of the car park.

In the case of the map I guess it is because vehicles had to report to the offices on their right. Saves vehicles having to cross over.
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A turning triangle is the arrangement of lines in the form of a triangle with points at the apexes so that a locomotive can be turned in the other direction by passing round all three sides.

A good example might be Metropolitan Junction - Cannon Street - Borough Market Junction.
Thank you for that info.

I asked because the only turntable I know of was manual and a friends Dad (who was a shunter in them thar days and I was about 8/9 years of age) gave us a ride on the foot plate and had to turn an engine. Considering the costs I thought it would be cheaper and easier to have a triangle with automatic points for turning as apposed to a turntable and wondered why a turntable.
Jim (I did say I was a non railway person ).
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The problem with triangle v turntable is the space required for the former.
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