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Old 29-12-2017, 11:59 PM   #11
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Note: The use of lead content solder is not illegal unless you're selling or manufacturing items!
Would it be a case then that if someone sold on a loco that had been repaired or upgraded using lead/tin solder they would be committing an offence?

I'm just curious from the point of view of the many second hand models floating around sold as job lots, often old and fiddled with or repaired in the past. How do the big shops dealing in second hand models (like Rails of Sheffield) know or guarantee that they aren't selling anything with leaded solder in it?
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Old 30-12-2017, 10:31 AM   #12
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I doubt it, as virtually all older electrical items will be soldered using lead content solder. Its only in the last ten or so years that the EU legislation (as I understand it, it was an EU directive) that banned the commercial use of lead content solder. New items are under this heading not second-hand which may or may not have been repaired. If repaired I would expect a commercial business to use lead free solder anyway.
Home use is fine, so long as you're not commercially selling or manufacturing items. Selling a loco on eBay etc as a private seller is not a commercial business. But start a Cottage Industry producing items for sale and you would then become a commercial seller/manufacturer.
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Old 30-12-2017, 12:05 PM   #13
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I doubt it because lead solder is freely on sale more or less anywhere and would have thought if you could not use it, it would be e legal
to sell it and it is not. Or there are lot of people breaking the law.
You know I think that this blame society we live in is getting out of hand.

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It's illegal to use in plumbing because the lead can leach into the water supply. It's not illegal to use in electronics.
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Old 30-12-2017, 04:58 PM   #15
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For something to be ROSH compliant then in most cases it must not have lead in it. You or I as end users don't have to worry about this, but manufacturers do. Any work you do on something that has been soldered commercially will involve lead free solder so you don't want to be adding lead to it or you might upset the joint.

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What does ROSH mean
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It's not actually ROSH, it's RoHS, which is the Restriction of Hazardous Substances Act 2006. Like Flashbang and Suzie have said, if you are manufacturing products, they must (usually, but there are exceptions) be lead free. You and I, tinkering with our model trains are not affected. Hornby, or Bachmann, etc. as manufacturers would be forced to comply by only using lead free solder.
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Well aware of the plumbing regs. I was a plumber myself. Back in the day when the apprenticeship lasted 5 years not like now days. They go to collage come out with bit of paper and know nothing.
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Well aware of the plumbing regs. I was a plumber myself.
Sorry, wasn't trying to tell you something you already knew, I just find it safer to assume that no-one knows what I'm talking about and explain everything!
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It's illegal to use in plumbing because the lead can leach into the water supply. It's not illegal to use in electronics.
You’d be surprised how much of it I still see. We used to get two rolls of solder one lead free for potable/drinking water pipe work and one roll containing lead for central heating pipe work.
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