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Old 13-09-2018, 08:23 PM   #1
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I am an N gauge modeller. Looking for advice on how to speed up a class 58 with a creep motor. The loco's are DCC made by Dapol any help please.
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Old 13-09-2018, 09:24 PM   #2
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I am an N gauge modeller. Looking for advice on how to speed up a class 58 with a creep motor. The loco's are DCC made by Dapol any help please.
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Old 13-09-2018, 10:56 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forum Gary. Friendly helpful bunch on here so I'm sure someone will be along soon with advice.
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What is a "creep motor?" Sorry to be dense, but you sound like you know you know your
away around a circuit board, whilst I am more suited to simple projects.

I have received some really good recommendations from this forum, most recently upon how I might best install a Booking Hall, ballast, getting, or trying to get, a rather vintage D6100 to work, after years of neglect.

Best of luck on your project.
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Welcome Gary - You've joined a great forum. Lots of help, information and fun. Looking on Google I see that Dapol sell the "Supercreep" motor as a replacement motor. As Chops said I'd also never heard of it until I Googled. BB
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Welcome. No idea how to make them go faster unless they are running too slow due to a motor fault where something is hampering the motor from turning.
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Hi Gary and welcome to the forum.

I wonder as the loco is DCC fitted if CV5 (Top speed) needs setting to its highest value. Depending on decoder make will determine what the largest value in CV5 can be. e.g. 63 or 255 etc. Check with the decoder manual.
If its found to have been lower and when set to its maximum value the loco is then too fast at full throttle reduce it in increments of say 20 units until the best speed at 128 or 28 speed steps on the console is found.
Once CV5 is set, you should then adjust CV6 to around 1/3 to 1/2 the value set in CV5. e.g. if CV5 is at 255 then set CV6 to somewhere between 85 to a maximum of 125.
Note; the above can only be carried out with a DCC system that allows CV alterations.
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Isn’t the ‘supercreep’ specifically designed for slow running ie high torque/low revs?
Trying to make it go ‘fast’ is contrary to its design specs - or am I missing something?

Drawing comparisons with slot car racing where the search is always for higher speed, this is achieved by higher revving motors, but they then behave like the controller is an on/off switch - all or nothing and almost uncontrollable.
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Default Thank you all.

The creep motor in these loco's is designed to go slow when pulling long MGR trains looks great. But when it takes so long to go round my layout it would be nice to get them round a bit quicker. As in real life these trains do travel faster. Thank you all for the advice and the welcome to the group.
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