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Old 25-03-2018, 07:31 PM   #1
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Hi guys, as I'm on a tighter budget than I would like to be I am looking into 2nd hand and budget options for new loco's.

What is your thoughts on it?
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Old 25-03-2018, 07:58 PM   #2
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When I started I was amazed at the price of new locos and I certainly can not afford to keep buying them bearing in mind it’s nice to have a few of them. All my locos are second hand or pro owned which is the phrase that’s used now. I have bought some from fellow enthusiasts and others from e bay. I personally like e bay and have had some good buys from there the Lima locos are cheap but they are not the best quality but are easy to work on and keep them going Hornby are better quality. I personally like to get some of the old Locos and do them up I can get some cheap ones from e bay take them to bits and perhaps build up one good one. I don’t have any new locos at all.
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Old 25-03-2018, 08:00 PM   #3
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i have brought a few off ebay but its very hit ad miss for quality
have now started looking on the hattons site for pre owned they seem to be not much more than ebay and with what appears to be very good descriptions so you can see what faults they have or if listed as new
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I agree with Terryj- hit or miss. I will tell you straight up, that company based out
of Philadelphia, manufactures in China is something I will not buy new or used. The
used items, even gleaming, have often been beset with loose drive wheels and side
rod pins that fall out.

Check this thread in this Forum:


"B******* Dukedog slow running"

Are you able to buy at train shows where one can haggle a bit and have the opportunity
to test?
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Old 25-03-2018, 08:22 PM   #5
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I agree with Terryj- hit or miss. I will tell you straight up, that company based out
of Philadelphia, manufactures in China is something I will not buy new or used. The
used items, even gleaming, have often been beset with loose drive wheels and side
rod pins that fall out.

Are you able to buy at train shows where one can haggle a bit and have the opportunity
to test?
I've not been to any shows since my early teens (I'm 31 now so a while)
I'm planning on going to a couple of local ones in April and May.
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Hattons may be worth a look. They have quite a few Pre-owned bargains on offer

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I have bought second hand from Rails Of Sheffield and have never had any problems.
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Well, there you go. Um, I recently have been seeing some rather nice older Hornby pieces on Ebay for in the 40 pound range, I snagged one myself. Hope it doesn't bite me in the rear.

Someone put me on to Hatton's a while back, and I've had excellent results with them. I should really stick to them and not go on these blind hunting expeditions- fools rush in where angels fear to tread. I'm sure that if Rails of Sheffield comes recommended that will serve you well.

Speaking of blind hunts:

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I do hope you will post your acquisitions in the Forum.
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Old 26-03-2018, 02:13 AM   #9
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It really depends on what you are looking for out of your railway.

The new models are really nice and run really well, especially at slow speeds. But that isn't what everyone needs. There is still a space for the cheaper end of the market and the used market. Unfortunately prices of pre-owned modern detailed stuff seems to hold up very well so for cheaper stuff you do end up looking at older Hornby, Lima, airfix, mainline etc.

Whilst the old stuff is OK, it does leave a bit to the imagination and the running gear isn't as accomplished. You can do a lot to improve the old models, even re-motoring with CD drive motors is possible.
If you want lighting, it is possible to DIY fit to almost anything; if you have a problem with stuttering then adding pickups to wheels where they were never originally fitted; it is easier to fit DCC sound as there is generally less inside an older loco so more space for the speaker.

So old locos are not a barrier to doing anything. With a bit of detailing and weathering they can be made to look really good too. I've seen older models with handrails and brass grilles that you would never tell were an older model and still at much lower cost.
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OC5

Your title was Pre owned locos but I picked up in your opening question "and budget options for new locos".
I have mentioned this previously and had no replies, so I ask again here, because it might be relevant to your question.
I have seen many locos advertised as "NEW" that have had Hornby release dates of 10 years plus. By new we mean unrun.
Does this mean that they have been kept , for whatever reason, by a collector/dealer for 10 years plus?
Whatever the answer it is something that we both might learn today.
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